tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18303855.post3739501757598463423..comments2023-04-14T08:17:37.446-04:00Comments on The Blog of Siram: Gay Marriage PoliticsMWThttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09446603415730525882noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18303855.post-85676499983464707902008-11-18T22:50:00.000-05:002008-11-18T22:50:00.000-05:00Hey, you never know. Texas as a whole had pretty g...Hey, you never know. Texas as a whole had pretty good turnout this time around, with very little notice. I'm hoping they'll do it again sometime soon, now that everyone knows there are protest rallies to be had. <BR/><BR/>Maybe Savannah will have a few more people show up next time. ;) Downtown Savannah is a pretty liberal place because of the art school.MWThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09446603415730525882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18303855.post-61015034823505286402008-11-18T21:26:00.000-05:002008-11-18T21:26:00.000-05:00Well, I guess a turnout of one is a turnout of non...Well, I guess a turnout of one is a turnout of none... better luck next time, friend. I support the cause, but I don't think there will be any protest rallies here in Hicksville, Texas.<BR/><BR/>I say that and then think, well, no, maybe the student GLBT organization will do one. I hope they advertise well enough in advance, though...Megadeushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06096432612110870859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18303855.post-28342401744831837632008-11-18T20:18:00.000-05:002008-11-18T20:18:00.000-05:00Yeah. I'm thinking in the longterm, actually. At s...Yeah. I'm thinking in the longterm, actually. At some point there's going to have to be a SCOTUS ruling but it wouldn't be good to have one right now.<BR/><BR/>Blacks have had their fight going for over 50 years and there has been a lot of progress for them in that time. GBLTQ has only just begun. I'm looking forward to where we'll be in 50 years.MWThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09446603415730525882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18303855.post-36264545358857453872008-11-18T19:23:00.000-05:002008-11-18T19:23:00.000-05:00Be careful what you wish for: I'm not convinced th...Be careful what you wish for: I'm not convinced that the SCOTUS ruling would go the right way. Actually, I really expect it wouldn't, at least right now.<BR/><BR/>Unhappy as I am with piecemeal, I think the SCOTUS would be more likely to go the right way if same-sex marriage was legal in enough states for it to become a Full Faith And Credit issue instead of solely a Due Process issue. I could be wrong on that point, especially since the Full Faith And Credit clause does <I>not</I> require a state to recognize a marriage from another jurisdiction if it's against public policy.<BR/><BR/>But on the Due Process issue (which is what it would fall under right now, with the claim being, I believe, that any consenting adult has a right to the benefits of the state-recognized institution of marriage with any other consenting adult), I think you at <I>the very best</I> have a 5-4 (in favor of same-sex marriage) for the foreseeable future. And if Stevens retires (he's the oldest Justice on the bench), I don't know that it wouldn't go 5-4 the <I>other</I> way; while an Obama nominee would presumably be a younger liberal, nothing is ever guaranteed (Justice Souter, for instance, was appointed as a conservative and has proven to be one of the most consistently liberal members of the bench, not unlike Chief Justice Earl Warren decades before).<BR/><BR/>And, in my opinion, the four votes against legalization are pretty secure: Roberts, Alito, Scalia and Thomas aren't going anywhere.<BR/><BR/>But I could be wrong.Erichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18275812152895151542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18303855.post-43815742508260365012008-11-17T13:23:00.000-05:002008-11-17T13:23:00.000-05:00I suspect that this is just the beginning. The fun...I suspect that this is just the beginning. The fundie wingnuts got immediate gratification on the prop 8 vote, but I don't think they anticipated the backlash. <BR/><BR/>As I said a couple of months back, I hope this does end up in SCOTUS' lap. This is a basic Constitutional issue and we need a national decision on basic human rights, not a decision based on the right wing Christian agenda.Jim Wrighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11259550121437562338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18303855.post-61506931230030908462008-11-17T12:07:00.000-05:002008-11-17T12:07:00.000-05:00OMG, what the hell have I started. Be it known th...OMG, what the hell have I started. Be it known that I am officially in a good mood today. Downgrade me from Stabby to merely Pokey. :DNathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00648438549121320566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18303855.post-81727951404498013152008-11-17T11:57:00.000-05:002008-11-17T11:57:00.000-05:00I found out about it the day after - Fairbanks had...I found out about it the day after - Fairbanks had a turnout of around 30 people, which isn't bad considering the fundamentalism of a good portion of our population.<BR/><BR/>Laws like Prop 8 make me feel stabby, which is NOT my default setting.Taniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18142380580388373496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18303855.post-35908038749564480762008-11-17T11:00:00.000-05:002008-11-17T11:00:00.000-05:00I think you're right about a SCOTUS ruling, like t...I think you're right about a SCOTUS ruling, like the one knocking-down the bans on interracial marriage. But I don't expect a challenge of that nature any time soon.vincehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16955307244053931069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18303855.post-59524393192576769812008-11-17T09:12:00.000-05:002008-11-17T09:12:00.000-05:00That's unfortunate that the turnout was not there....That's unfortunate that the turnout was not there. Prop 8 is such a stupid thing and these religious and right wing nutjobs that think they can just deny individuals a basic human right should have something very unfortunate happen to them. In light of the election and then Prop 8 being voted in it seems like two steps forward one step back. Grrrrrrrmattwhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07934926340973044413noreply@blogger.com